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Passionate arguments from those for, against alcohol sales dominate charged public hearing

Starkville resident Robbie Ward, a vocal proponent of Sunday alcohol sales, speaks at the first of two scheduled public hearings on the matter at City Hall Tuesday.
Starkville resident Robbie Ward, a vocal proponent of Sunday alcohol sales, speaks at the first of two scheduled public hearings on the matter at City Hall Tuesday. / Luisa Porter


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Some have called the debate over Sunday alcohol sales one of the most divisive in Starkville’s recent history.

On one side sits a group of citizens who oppose Sunday sales because of safety, religious and moral concerns. On the other is a citizenry who believes Sunday sales would lead to an increase in business and tax revenue. They also view it as a matter of personal choice.

The two sides squared off formally Tuesday in Starkville City Hall during the first of two public hearings regarding possible amendments to the city’s alcohol ordinance. The amendments would allow the sale of alcohol on Sundays from 11 a.m. to 10 p.m., and extend the time bars and other businesses could sell alcohol by two hours a night on weeknights, from 12 a.m. to 2 a.m., and one hour on Friday and Saturday nights, from 1 a.m. to 2 a.m. The amendments also would decrease from 250 feet to 100 feet the distance an alcohol-selling establishment can be located from a school or church, and they would allow exceptions to existing open container regulations to allow public drinking during special events.

The crowd spilled out of the courtroom and into the hallway at City Hall Tuesday night as citizens on both sides of the debate showed up in force.

The city’s Board of Aldermen allowed eight residents to speak for the amendments during the 30-minute hearing, eight to speak against them and one man to comment, Richard Mullenax of Ward 5, who said he is completely neutral.

Robbie Ward made the most impassioned argument for the sale of alcohol on Sundays, saying Starkville residents would exercise the same amount of caution on Sundays as they would the rest of the week. He also criticized arguments that Sunday sales would require the Starkville Police Department to increase patrols and arrest even more drunken drivers.

“We want the police to protect us Monday through Saturday; I don’t see where that changes on Sunday,” Ward said.

Ward called arguments against Sunday sales “self righteous” and feels residents and visitors to Starkville should have the right to buy a drink seven days a week.

“I say it’s about personal responsibility, freedom and quality of life,” Ward said.

Ward’s statements were contrary to those of Buck Swain, who at first told the board he is 91, then remembered he’s actually 92. Swain was opposed to Sunday sales and received a round of applause after his comments.

“All of you who have families to take care of, why would you want to pass a law that will not help your family?” he asked the board.

“Why do you need to give them another day to buy liquor?” he asked later. “Sunday is supposed to be a day of rest.”

Two of the city’s aldermen who have spoken out against the amendments did so again Tuesday at the end of the hearing.

“I’ll fight tooth and nail if you try to reduce it from 250 feet to 100 feet around churches and schools,” Ward 1 Alderman Ben Carver said.

Ward 7 Alderman Henry Vaughn Sr. also was opposed and criticized arguments that Sunday sales would be an economic benefit to the city.

“It’s all about money,” Vaughn said. “My family is worth more to me than money.”

The second public hearing is set for the Board of Aldermen’s next meeting Aug. 18 at 5:30 p.m. in City Hall.

In other business, aldermen put to rest — for the time being, at least — a potential controversy involving the heavily discussed curbside recycling program.

The board agreed to have city staff, which typically means Chief Administrative Officer Lynn Spruill and others, draw up a contract between the city and Starkville Recycling to begin a curbside pickup plan. The city’s Sanitation Department would pick up recyclables in existing trucks, then take the items to Starkville Recycling on C.C. Clark Road.

Because Starkville Recycling would process the materials and sell them, with no financial agreement with the city, Mayor Parker Wiseman argued the curbside pickup contract should be put out to bid.

On the other side of the argument, Starkville Recycling’s Stan Shurden was of the belief that, because the former Board of Aldermen approved a curbside program with Starkville Recycling in mind, his business should get the contract. Wiseman, however, was undeterred.

“It’s important to know recyclables have a value once they’re collected,” Wiseman said.

“I just felt, in fairness, a decision of this magnitude shouldn’t be made with a wink and a handshake,” he added later.

But Wiseman had no vote and the board voted unanimously to direct city staff to draw up a contract between the city and Starkville Recycling for the curbside pickup program, and have it ready for discussion at the Aug. 18 meeting. The two sides will negotiate over the next two weeks.

Tim Pratt is based in the Dispatch's Starkville Bureau. His e-mail address is tpratt@cdispatch.com.

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Article Comment ken comments:

8/6/2009 1:56:00 PM

This is ALL WE NEED, a bunch of Drunk Drivers running over us as we try to get across the street to Chuch. NO BEER SALES on Sunday, WWJD?
All you people that want this are either Drunks or just greedy for more money, too many of our young people are getting killed on these roads already, Give up the GREED..NO BEER SALES on SUNDAY, this is the LORDS DAY, I doubt you'll find Jesus behind the wheel of a F-250 drinking beer and texting on a cell phone.

Article Comment Leeroy Jenkins comments:

8/6/2009 2:16:00 PM

BEER SALES ON SUNDAY! There is a such thing as separation of church and state. The community should not be pushing it's religious views on everyone. I guess Columbus and West Point can use that tax money. Way to stay in the dark ages Starkville.

@Ken - It sounds like you are a senior citizen.

Article Comment MB comments:

8/6/2009 4:53:00 PM

Well I think it is crazy to sale beer and liquor on Sunday. Its not about money! Remember the argument about banning smoking. Everyone against the ban were saying it is going to hurt business but in reality it has not hurt business but it actually helped it. If alcohol sales are allowed on Sunday I would be willing to bet the tax revenue would stay the same or maybe even decrease. I personally would not want to go eat after church and have a table full of people next to me drinking. I do not mean that they are getting drunk but I would rather not have to sit next to them. If you want to drink on Sunday, buy it on Saturday!

Article Comment ken comments:

8/7/2009 10:44:00 AM

Lyle....your right to choose and my right to choose will clash, my little ignorant friend.
I choose not to be surrounded by drunks on Sunday (The Lords Day) As far as Jesus being behind the Wheel; He is with us every second of our lives here on Earth, trying to convince us to Do The Right Thing, and the Right Thing is to Keep his Day Holy. Too many people Die on our Roadways from Drinking and Driving, just look at your newspapers and see the Death on any given day on the roadways, in the homes, from Drunkness, domestic abuse, rapes, homicides, Mostly from the Consumption of too much DRINK. It would be Nice to have ONE DAY absent of this.
JOBS ARE THE ANSWER to more Tax REVENUE...beer just adds to the Problems.

Article Comment Leeroy Jenkins comments:

8/7/2009 2:15:00 PM

@Ken -

No, I do not run a "Juke-Joint". I am NOT a student and I am employed in Starkville. Seperation of Church and state has everything to do with this seeing as it is just a bunch of church goe-rs making the fuss.

Like Lyle said, it is a matter or choice, not a decision for the community to make.

Article Comment J comments:

8/8/2009 3:09:00 PM

The fact of the matter is...it really doesn't matter if you sell beer and alcohol on Sunday there...You can always buy it the night before...and you can drive to adjoining counties and drink it all day...Not selling it on Sundays doesn't make it a day of rest from it for the people who want to drink...You still have people driving right back through Oktibbeha County and City of Starkville that have consumed it

Article Comment ken comments:

8/9/2009 10:31:00 AM

might as well make MaryJane legal too. That way we can Tax it, and have more money for our coffers.

Article Comment Ash comments:

8/18/2009 10:09:00 PM

Just because people want the ability to go out and have a good time (their own personal decision) on Sundays does not mean they are going to make Sundays any less "restful" or "The Lord's Day" for anyone else! Some people have don't have the luxury of resting on Sundays and skipping merrily to church with their families, some people have to work. What about the people who must work on Sundays and because of this ridiculous law, their jobs lose money (like the restaurants or hotels)? I have to tell people who come here on the weekends all the time that we don't offer alcohol here and it makes most of them angry or resentful, and they never want to come back. Would you really want to lose even more of the visitors we already have to outside towns who have more to offer just by this one day?? The college brings in a lot of people who stay here over the weekend for events, why piss them off and send them home early because they think our town is boring and too uptight?

Those who say that Sunday should only be Jesus' day.. while I think that is great, I actually believe in The Lord myself and I believe that as long as you take time for yourself to worship and praise the way you feel, then it does not demean anything. Sunday is a day of the week, not something miraculous. A long time ago, the calendar was completely different and the day of worship probably wasn't a "Sunday." Please do not look at a positive vote for sales to be a demeaning factor to those who don't want it, or believe it is immoral. It is just a vote to give people the right to decide for themselves and not stifle what others believe.

Article Comment Lyle comments:

8/6/2009 6:20:00 PM

It should simply be a matter of choice. If, as MB states, one "would not want to go eat...[with] people next to me drinking," then do not go. It's just that simple.

Why do people think that simply because alcohol is for sale, people are "drunks?" Is everyone in, say, Memphis who buys a drink on Sunday a "drunk?"

As for a couple of the above comments, I don't believe I'd find Jesus texting behind the wheel of an F-250 any day of the week. Why should Sunday make a difference? And, there are simply way too many grammatical and spelling errors in MB's comment.

In case it is unclear, I support alcohol Sunday sales simply because I enjoy the right to choose.

Article Comment ken comments:

8/7/2009 10:31:00 AM

Leeroy ur an idiot! What does separation of Church & State have to do with this issue ? West Point & Starkville can Increase their Tax Revenue, if they Create More Jobs, Beer sales just will not do that much, but it will increase Fines and Lawyers Fees. As far as being a Senior Citizen, I'm halfway there. Sounds to me like you run a "juke joint" remember....Never Profit on Another Man's Misery. West Point is more worried about a Tennis Court costing taxpayers than they are worried about bringing jobs in. If your NOT a MSU student, you can Hang it up trying to get a job in Starkville. My bother was killed by a Drunk Driver on Sunday..that's my REASON for being Against this Mess.

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